A Day In The Life Of A HRO PEO Consultant

Bruce Silver
Employers Rx LLC

On any given week, Employers Rx LLC has between five and ten accounts in various stages of our (RFP) request for proposal process. If you have personally shopped for an employee leasing company or professional employer organization, then you know first hand, what a daunting experience it can be. You’re aware of all the questions they ask, the forms you have to complete, the company and employee information they require, the emails, phone calls, reams of paperwork they create, all the time wasted and productivity lost.

Now imagine dealing with six sometimes eight different HR companies, responding to questions from underwriters, risk managers, sales managers, all wanting in depth information about your company, in a certain format, on their forms, and the list goes on. If that is not enough, imagine what it can be like when you are doing this for eight or ten clients a week. Welcome to my world.

Our clients this week include an intimate apparel company with locations in NYC, PA, and Bentonville, AR, a 5 state property management company based in Chicago, a public company who provides medical staffing nationwide, a manufacturer of ATV accessories in IA, a publisher in Stuart, FL, a medical supply company in Rochester, NY, and 2 more. These accounts represent almost 400 full and part time employees with over $25 million in annual payroll. Our first goal is secure the most competitive rates for our clients, bona fide offers the first time,without any conditions, additional fees or hidden costs.

A typical day starts around 5:30am, after walking the dogs, I sit down with my first cup for freshly ground coffee and check the batch of overnight emails. I am greeted by a message from one of the “Big 3” PEO’s complaining that our client’s RFP has their health statement filled out on a competitor’s form, and that his underwriter would not accept it. As with many of our clients, providing affordable health insurance coverage for their employees is a major problem. In this case, the client has been happy with Aetna for years. Usually, we send out our own generic health questionnaire. Since this client’s RFP will only be submitted to PEO’s that have a master plan from Aetna, we opted for an “official” Aetna group health statement. Never again.

Unfortunately, this was only half of the complaint. The “Big 3” PEO also requested the client’s most recent payroll run. Our client has some seasonal employees, and was thorough enough to provide us with a breakdown by state and code of their expected annual payroll. This was in addition to providing the last quarterly report. Because it wasn’t their last weekly payroll run. My rep would have to call his VP for an exception. After a flurry of emails, phone calls, and even a personal visit by their executive VP, I am happy to report that exceptions were made, and our client has finally received a competitive proposal.

My next email was from another professional employer who I call “Big 5”. He too is complaining that our client provided information on a competitors form, but was willing to make an exception. However, he had issues with another client’s RFP. Once again, group health insurance is a primary concern. Our client has 5 former employees covered under COBRA, and the “Big 5” underwriter wants birth dates and termination dates before they can make a firm offer with set rates. It has only taken us six weeks to get to this point, another few days won’t make a difference? NOT.

What frustrates us the most is trying to get all of the required information from our clients. Very often we are working directly with the business owner who is wearing so many hats, they rarely have the time to compile the payroll, workers compensation, and health insurance documentation we need. Even when dealing with a company’s HR Director, comptroller or office manager, getting all the forms completed and returned in a timely manner, despite all the technology, still remains our greatest challenge.

We welcome any and all suggestions, and if you’re a prospective client, we appreciate your cooperation in assisting us to do the very best job we can, for you and for your organization. Thanks again for the opportunity.

Common Mistakes of Shopping for PEOs and Employee Leasing on the Web

By Bruce Silver, Founder

Employers Rx LLC 

Third of a three part series.

What is Behind Door Number # 1, 2 or 3? 

When searching the internet for a PEO, it is important for a busy executive to have some idea of what your needs are, and understand the process you are about to undertake, before starting on your virtual journey. We have identified three types of websites that Google and Yahoo link to when searching for employee leasing or professional employer organizations. The first type of website that visitors will encounter are “Provider” sites, next are “Leads” sites, and last but not least, websites of PEO “Brokers” or consultants.

Is your company among the thousands who are looking for affordable health insurance coverage? You probably have read that professional employer organizations can save business owners 20% to 30% on their health insurance premiums because of their large group health plan. While this claim may be slightly exaggerated, the fact is that less then 10% of all professional employer organizations actually have a master group health plan.

Door # 1 – Are You A PEO Provider?

So how do you know if the website you visit belongs to a true employee leasing or professional employer organization? Look for logos of national and local industry associations like NAPEO, ESAC, FAPEO and others. At the same time, logos from payroll or staffing associations may mean the company is not focused on providing comprehensive human resource services or the “Fortune 500” benefits plans you want.

The “About Us” section should identify the management, their background and expertise. Are you looking for a company that offers a true “master” group health plan? Click on the employee or benefits section to see what types of employee benefits programs are available. Don’t be fooled by insurance company logos. Linking to the websites of Aetna, Blue Cross, or any of the national or regional health plans networks, does not indicate that a company has a large group health plan to offer.

 

Many PEO’s claim to save you money because of their “large group purchasing power”. In reality, all you get is their insurance broker shopping the market. You may be better of with your own broker. It is important to read between the lines. Here are a few examples.

 

We offer customized, tailored benefits programs, suited to meet each of our clients’ needs, objectives, demands, and budget. We negotiate contract renewals or we handle receipt of carrier billing and payments.

Be prepared to ask tough questions when you contact the PEO or employee leasing company. Ask about renewals and underwriting. Remember that you will be speaking with someone who represents only that company, and it’s their job to “close the sale”.

Door # 2 – You’re Leading Me On?

Next stop on our virtual tour are the nefarious “Leads” websites. Many of these websites are very attractive, easy to navigate and usually feature information taken directly from websites of established companies (without their knowledge). A typical example is the website SmallBusinessExpo.com. Notice the last sentence at the bottom of the page. 

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Google links to obvious “Leads” websites like BuyerZone.com and Staffmarket.com. It is relatively easy to see that these sites collect your company information and sell it to the highest bidders. Many “Leads” websites provide visitors pages of information on topics relevant to employee leasing such as payroll processing and workers compensation. Often the articles are written offshore or copied from legitimate HR blogs and websites.

 

Websites carrying ads from Google is another clear sign to move on. Why would any employee leasing, PEO or HR company want a competitor advertising on their website. Beware of companies who consistently rank first or second place in Google or Yahoo. In a recent search of Google for employee leasing, first position linked to wiseGeek.com. wiseGeek is owned and operated by Conjecture Corporation of Sparks, Nevada who “creates and manages a portfolio of informational and entertaining consumer web sites”.

Door # 3 – PEO Broker, Who’s Side Are You On? 

Our last stop takes us to websites of “Brokers” or consultants specializing in employee leasing, HR outsourcing and the professional employer industry. You will find there are exceptional professionals across the country, many have years of industry experience, with backgrounds in accounting, banking, and insurance. But, how will you know if you have found a qualified consulting firm or PEO brokerage that will help you find and negotiate for a suitable provider? My best advice comes from President Ronald Reagan, who when dealing with the USSR on nuclear disarmament said; “trust but verify”. 

“Brokers” websites typically offer business owners and executives a choice of leasing firms and PEOs to select from. Some consultants specialize in a particular region of the country, or have experience with certain industries. The demands and requirements of a client in the trucking business is not the same as an IT company. An industry professional will know exactly which PEOs to contact for a proposal. Ask the firm for their years in business, background, industry experience and expertise, and how they are compensated?

Website testimonials may indicate client satisfaction, but it is always a good idea to ask for, and follow-up on references from both their clients, and the companies they work with. LinkedIn members can access groups dedicated to the PEO industry where you can ask industry professionals about a particular broker or consultant’s reputation. Buyer beware is the rule of the day when shopping for payroll, HR outsourcing and professional employer services.

Tell us if we removed some of the bumps on your road to finding the right employee leasing company or professional employer organization for your business.

Legislators Mull Professional Employer Organizations

Regulating employee leasing companies and professional employer organizations can be a formidable task. Elected officials of West Virginia's Government Organization Subcommittee C is learning just how difficult it can be. Mannix Porterfield, a reporter with the Register-Herald, provides us with an insight into examining the operations of these companies.

This article makes a strong case why business owners and executives should seek professional advice when considering the selection of an Employee Leasing, HR Outsourcing, or Professional Employer Organization for their company.

Legislators Mull Professional Employer Organizations

By Mannix Porterfield
Register - Herald

An emergency rule is coming in mid-June to govern how Professional Employer Organizations align with workers’ compensation coverage, but other issues affecting them don’t end there. In fact, based on Sunday’s discussion by Government Organization Subcommittee C, lawmakers had best plan on looking at PEOs during interims for the rest of the year. Taxes, labor laws and unemployment compensation are all matters the panel plans to look at, Sen. Evan Jenkins, D-Cabell, a co-chairman, assured members. Until last year, there was no regulation of the growing business, and it was the PEO industry itself that called on lawmakers for some standards.

“They are worried, in part, about the image an unscrupulous entity that would act like a PEO but not really be a PEO, and come in and spoil what an appropriately formed and structured PEO may do,” Jenkins said. Insurance Commissioner Jane Cline told the panel her office intends to file an emergency workers’ compensation rule governing PEOs with the secretary of state’s office next month. “The issue of health insurance coverage seems to be a big concern,” Cline said. Cline recalled “a disastrous situation” that occurred with a PEO in North Carolina when the company slipped into bankruptcy, leaving a number of employees in the lurch.

About 14 states have some type of legislation on the books similar to West Virginia’s new law. “Are there places that have a track record of PEOs that we could somehow follow and not have to re-invent the wheel?” asked Sen. Ron Stollings, D-Boone, a doctor. Cline said the industry is interested in the Legislature providing some levels of regulation. “There are legitimate ones doing legitimate things out there,” the insurance commissioner said. “They’re concerned about the ones who might be doing it in a rogue manner.” Committee counsel Brenda Thompson said legislation “varies so greatly” in states that have enacted such legislation, “and it’s really a new creature.”

A lawsuit in Nevada over a PEO law has traveled through four courts already and remains unsettled after eight years of litigation, she pointed out. “This is pretty heavy stuff we’re going into,” Stollings said. “I wish someone had plowed a furrow for us to follow.”

PEOs function as a go-between for a business and its employees, such as in the operation of a firm offering temporary secretarial help, Jenkins explained afterward. “So that company writes one check to the PEO, who would cover all aspects of the employees,” the senator said. “It’s almost like having a dual employer situation. The PEO promotes itself as relieving that employer of the many traditional employer-employee management responsibilities.” A company may retain its right to discipline and fire its workers, but the PEO is the actual entity writing the checks, paying taxes on wages and covering the benefits, he said.

“As we studied this last year, we kept peeling back layers of what these PEOs did,” Jenkins said. “We realized it’s a very complex system.” Last year’s measure merely requires PEOs to register with Cline’s office to lay the groundwork for getting workers’ compensation coverage. “We were wanting to make sure employers weren’t dodging their workers’ compensation responsibilities by using a PEO, and a worker, if injured on the job, wouldn’t find himself in a Catch-22,” Jenkins said.

The 4 P's of HRO and PEO Evaluation

By Bruce Silver
May 4, 2008

All too often companies spend hours analyzing, assessing, and comparing the cost or savings that one HRO or PEO service provider offers versus another. While a detailed spreadsheet of costs may help to determine "hard dollar" expenditures, it very rarely accounts for the intrinsic value of the competing service models you are trying to compare.

Usually, items such as the co-pays of a health plan, workers compensation rates and administrative fees take precedence over far more important questions. Are you teaming up with a HRO or PEO partner who offers complimentary strengths or merely duplicative expertise and services? Is your corporate philosophy compatible?

Focusing on our 4 P's will help you to make the "right" choice.

People – Meet with the management and team you will be working with in person, by phone or tele-conference. What are their backgrounds, functions, qualifications, and responsibilities? What are the scope of services each will deliver, how, and how often?

Process – What is the plan for a smooth transition? Map steps for employee notification, orientation, and enrollment. Identify the who, what, where, and when of plan implementation. Set goals, time-lines, reviews and evaluations.

Platform – Human Resource Information Systems (HRIS) provide a robust set of tools for employee administration, benefits, compliance, payroll, and risk management. Identify levels of employee and management access, orientation, and training. How will you coordinate IT staff for system integration with automated attendance and Point Of Sale systems, 3rd party software and hardware?

Programs – Employee Benefit programs provide a competitive edge in attracting and retaining a highly motivated and productive workforce. Evaluate the quality, value, and choices of health, life, dental, disability and retirement plans. What employee communication, mediation, recognition, rewards, and relocation services are available?

Bruce Silver is the founder and managing member of Employers Rx LLC.
The author can be reached at 561.843.4333 or bruce@employers-Rx.com.
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